“Good climate science is complicated because it has to work within reality. And the reality is that climate is not a state but an ongoing process. Is this process producing results that clearly and unequivocally shows global warming attributable to human behaviour?”
That is the question. A very good, well-formulated scientific question.
(Though it should have read “show” instead of “shows”; subject-verb agreement. Results show. One result shows.)
It’s a pity T can’t keep up the tone though. In a comment directly to me, he/she attacks me and calls me names for raising the question: Is there a trend? Do the climate scientists really have enough evidence to make such (far off the mark, as reality has just proved, but to hell with reality then) predictions?
The past few winters have been records. That is, records in cold. I would very much like to see record heat set against that in similar “spot” evidence, at least enough incidences to offset the cold “spot evidence” and balance it.
Climate “science” (or at least, climate warmist science) has taken some extremely weird, apparently illogical turns by now.
Growing ice shelves in the Antarctic are evidence of warming?
More extremes on both sides of the scale are evidence of warming? (Why not, by the same logic, of cooling? That’s a real question btw, please bring evidence why it specifically supports warming and not cooling.)
I’ll help you a little with this one: Hurricanes over the sea need a certain amount of warmth to generate the force of those winds. This is why they usually occur in the tropics. (Following this, there should have been more hurricanes by the year. Have there? That’s a real question too, btw, I haven’t been following hurricane trends recently.) However, I struggle to see that global warming can cause Antarctic ice to grow. If we follow this logic to its conclusion, global warming should cause the polar caps to grow until they meet at the equator. A frightening scenario.
This kind of strange logic should lead us to the following conclusion:
If it’s that complicated, we can’t make any predictions at all, because global warming can cause anything whatsoever, from a burnt-out desert planet to the next ice age. In this case the climate scientists ought to step back and say, “sorry, people, not enough insight to make any predictions”.
That is what the Daily Mail, UK, is essentially doing with its article re the Arctic icecap recovery.
It would be the honest thing to do.
What concerns me most about all this though is the influence of the media:
Climate Gate. Did it actually happen? Did people intercept emails covering a scam of tampering with data (a HUGE no-no in the scientific community) and threw them online in outrage for everyone to read?
Back then, it sounded pretty convincing. Why is nobody saying anything about it anymore? Why are the media pretending it never happened, and carrying on just as before?
I’m not going to volunteer guesses; to guess is not my job. I’m only raising the questions, following good scientific method.
However it’s worth remembering that this is not only a scientific but also an economic and political issue.
In whose interest do the media lean this way then that? Who gains from spreading panic (only in Western countries, mind you)?
And sadly, an answer does emerge here.
Who gains? (Ever heard of carbon taxes btw?)
Oil. The companies selling the same “fossil fuel” that was already supposed to have run out – and is being mined faster than ever before. Because they can legitimately push up their prices (and therefore their profits) with the moral argument that they are selling the stuff very reluctantly because it causes global problems.
It does cause global problems (ask the seagulls!).
Then why was the electric car pushed off the market (by same oil companies)? (Don’t come with that it takes fuel-burning to generate electricity. It doesn’t. There are many greener ways to generate electricity. If it were about fuel-burning, the same companies wouldn’t have pushed the e-car off the market but joined in, quietly laughing because they’re still selling the same fuels.)
All these very interesting trends. Would you buy a Prius? I wouldn’t – a Prius is a lie because it’s only halfway electric. Rather buy a bike. And, of course, there are issues circling on Facebook how Toyota abuses their workers (one worked himself to death apparently).
If it’s on Facebook, there must be a reason.
Don’t you think?